Kinda disappointed in the new album

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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby megahurt » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:10 pm

Jot wrote:
megahurt wrote:fan
megahurt wrote:I rarely pay for an album that I love

Does not compute.


Well let me help you figure it out.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fan

fan
–noun
an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; a great fan of Charlie Chaplin.
Origin:
1885–90, Americanism ; short for fanatic


There you have it. As you can clearly see, being a fan has absolutely nothing to do with money. I'm a big fan of having sex too, but I don't pay for it.
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby eht13 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:38 am

JonCurcio wrote:
Jot wrote:
megahurt wrote:fan
megahurt wrote:I rarely pay for an album that I love

Does not compute.


I found that kind of odd too.


We agree on something in this thread! :lol:
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby eht13 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:41 am

lamb_of_gods wrote:I got hold of it last night, its differnt but in a good way, cant wait for the offiical release
already paid for the Deluxe and Laminate so no harm in owning inferior mp3s now.


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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby helmet » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:37 am

For me it calls for my self-discipline to pay for an album I´ve already gotten through a leak. I do have moral issues surrounding it and I do believe there is reason for it being a crime. When it comes to SED I will ignore the search for this leak just to pay my debts for the record...I´m just too much of a fan to test my at times weak self-discipline:-)
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby Jot » Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:56 am

megahurt wrote:I'm a big fan of having sex too, but I don't pay for it.

But that doesn 't mean you steal condoms, right?
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby lamb_of_gods » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:46 am

If your a fan, wouldnt buying the albums make sense.
Band makes music. Band sells music. Fan buys music. Band uses money from previous sales to fund new music and so on.
If your boss asked you to do a couple of hours overtime each week off the clock, would you agree?
Nope because you expect something in return for your time.
The excuse "ill pay to see them live, im not supporting greedy record companies" doesnt float.
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby couch X slouch » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:45 pm

I'm still trying to find this online before I buy it. How sad is that when you think about it... I want to make sure HELMET, a once untouchable, unfuckwithable band has put out a record that is worth $20?
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby helmet » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:34 pm

couch X slouch wrote:I'm still trying to find this online before I buy it. How sad is that when you think about it... I want to make sure HELMET, a once untouchable, unfuckwithable band has put out a record that is worth $20?

unfuckwithable...ha ha ha fantastic word :) Anyway, the digital download stands at 11 bucks, which I believe won´t bankrupt any helmet fans. The amazon preview is enough for me to tell the full cd is well worth the price.
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby couch X slouch » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:44 am

Phew... a kind poster on here just saved me a few bucks. I can't believe this that I'm sayin this but the record sucks. Like, I'm actually shocked how bad it is.

My wife asked me "So, how long can you keep defending Helmet?". Not anymore. This is it. I had SUCH hopes for this record and I can`t find a single song I like in its entirety.
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby chinstrap » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:04 am

If all you want to do is complain about the new album and criticize how it's not any better than the last two albums, then keep it to yourself! If you're complaining how much you don't like it, then you might not get it (yet). Maybe the sound/music is too far ahead of your curve to realize it. Just maybe. Maybe later in life, you'll dig these albums out and give them another listen and then think; "Wow, I totally get it now!" Maybe not, but who knows?

I've been into Helmet since I first heard Meantime. I was drooling over the next album to come out. Betty came out, but at that time, it didn't really please me at first listen but I love it now. Same as Aftertaste. I hated it when listening to it the first time, on my 30 mile drive back home from Wichita to the town I was living in at the time. But I love it just as much as their other albums now! I know Page said his heart wasn't where he wanted it to be when he was working on Aftertaste, but there's nothing wrong with that. You can't help how you feel, or what you're going through in certain parts of your life. Especially if you're the singer/song writer. I'm certain he was under a lot of pressure from his label during those days too. Nothing any of us can do about it.

When Size Matters came out, there was only 4 songs on that album that I liked. I had no interest in listening to the rest. I tried listening to the tracks that I disliked at the time but couldn't digest them at that moment. Since then, I can listen to the whole album and enjoy it now. I'm not forcing myself on this either. I'm not trying to make myself like it. I think it just takes time for me to catch up with what the music means. Music and lyrically, I mean.

Monochrome hasn't phased me as the rest just yet. I'm waiting for it to finally make sense to me, which I'm sure it will. Seeing Eye Dog will be no different to me as the others have, since Meantime. When Betty came out, I was expecting Meantime II but it didn't happen, but I'm over that now. I'm always expecting the next to album to sound like their last but it's never gonna be like that when it comes to Helmet. That's Page for ya. He's not into what's mainstream and never will be. He's a musician! He's into development and progressive sound. And that's what I love about it! The music speaks for itself. It's all in matter on how you take it in. Page seems to be feeling a lot more happier about having more control in this album and making it the way he intended. That seems to be a good thing if you ask me. And that's what gets me excited! So, don't be so eager to criticize cuz you just might regret it later.

To me, Helmet is like wine. It just gets better after age. And that's all I have to say.
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby eht13 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:31 am

^ Well said, chinstrap. 8)
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby helmet » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:11 pm

Yep, this couch guy seems almost net-troll like dissapointed in the new album.
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby couch X slouch » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:57 pm

helmet wrote:Yep, this couch guy seems almost net-troll like dissapointed in the new album.


When I make a personal attack on YOU, you can do the same to me, OK? I wasn't even talking to you, I made a comment about a RECORD. I'm sure Page doesn't care what anyone thinks, he made the record he wanted to make and so it happens I don't like it. Big deal right, I don't like something you like.

My post count, the number of times I've seen Helmet and my record collection will prove I LOVE Helmet. I try to find something good in everything but I found absolutely nothing (except a few riffs) in Seeing Eye Dog.

I hope my opinion isn't too offensive and you will be able to sleep tonight. *

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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby helmet » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:28 pm

couch X slouch wrote:
helmet wrote:Yep, this couch guy seems almost net-troll like dissapointed in the new album.


When I make a personal attack on YOU, you can do the same to me, OK? I wasn't even talking to you, I made a comment about a RECORD. I'm sure Page doesn't care what anyone thinks, he made the record he wanted to make and so it happens I don't like it. Big deal right, I don't like something you like.

My post count, the number of times I've seen Helmet and my record collection will prove I LOVE Helmet. I try to find something good in everything but I found absolutely nothing (except a few riffs) in Seeing Eye Dog.

I hope my opinion isn't too offensive and you will be able to sleep tonight. *

* sarcasm

Wow, you do take things personal.
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Re: Kinda disappointed in the new album

Postby megahurt » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:54 pm

Listen kids, let's not get too far off the topic. This thread is about the fact that the new album, while it is growing on me, should NOT be a Helmet album.
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